... or, as Flanders and Swann explained, ``There's no smoke without fire.'' So, it has been a bad week in the House of Commons, with MPs voting to make identity cards compulsory for the passport-carrying public and making it an offence to ``glorify terrorism'', which activity includes, absurdly, praising British and American troops for liberating Iraq from the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein.
But since I've gone on about both of those at considerable length before, I'm instead going to talk about the Health Bill, which is the measure which will ban smoking in, as the papers have variously reported,
- offices, pubs, restaurants and ``virtually every enclosed public space and workplace'';
- all pubs, clubs and workplaces [... but not] the home and in places considered to be homes, such as prisons, care homes and hotels;
- all pubs, restaurants, private clubs and most workplaces across Britain [... excepting only] private homes, care homes, hospitals, prisons and hotel bedrooms; or
- 124,000 pubs and clubs across England [and all] enclosed public spaces.
Each of these reports has one important feature in common: they are simply not true. The Health Bill as voted on in the Commons yesterday will ban smoking almost everywhere, including in your own home. (I have mentioned this before on my linklog and elsewhere.)
What the Bill does is to ban smoking in (``designate as smoke-free'' in the ugly language of the measure) anywhere which is ``open to the public'' -- which includes a place open to the public by invitation, such as your home -- whenever members of the public are present; and anywhere which is used as``a place of work by more than one person (even if the persons who work there do so at different times, or only intermittently)'' -- which includes, say, a house where employees of your gas, water and electricity suppliers come to read the meters on different days.
Now, ministers have promised that they will use the power in s.3 of the Bill to exempt by order certain places, such as private homes, from the restrictions. (It was an argument over what types of places such orders may or may not exempt which consumed much time in the Commons and space in the press earlier in the week.)
You may, or may not, think that the difference between a law which bans something everywhere and creates scope for ministers to unban it in some places -- perhaps before the ban comes into force, perhaps after, and perhaps not at all -- is materially different from one which bans something only in certain places. I certainly do; what is given by Statutory Instrument may be taken away by Statutory Instrument; and a promise by a minister is not worth all that much these days.
This is nothing new; the Identity Cards Bill, for instance, contains something like sixty powers to vary things by ministerial order (sometimes with, and sometimes without, the consent of Parliament). But, of course, the government has now seen an opportunity for further tidying-up, in the form of the Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill, which will permit ministers to pass the vast majority of legislation by means of Statutory Instruments with no proper scrutiny by Parliament, and would if passed certainly allow the designation and undesignation of ``smoke-free places'' on a ministerial whim, whatever the Health Bill itself said.
As others have pointed out, ``Leg and Reg'' is the mother and father of all Henry VIII clauses; but like most recent amendments to our constitution, it is being done rather stealthily. Particularly clever, of course, is the name, for who could be against regulatory reform? The government have spun the Bill as being a measure to cut red tape, and a lot of otherwise sensible people, and the CBI, have swallowed it whole.
You might be interested in this discussion of the Bill, by, to steal a gag from Ian Brown, ``that well known bunch of leftie hippies, City law firm Clifford Chance.'' They point out that,
The only red tape the Bill would actually remove is the red tape of Parliamentary scrutiny for primary legislation.
(I should probably say something about the idea of banning smoking itself. I don't smoke, I detest the smell of cigarette smoke, and I don't much fancy getting lung cancer. Meanwhile, I am skeptical that the smoking ban will achieve all that much. The legitimate argument for banning smoking is based on externalities: we should not force employees of, say, pubs, to expose themselves to the poisonous effects of customers' cigarettes. Customers can always choose a non-smoking venue, or to stay at home if there is none; employees do not necessarily have the same freedom. But I can't see any problem with a group of smokers running a pub for their own benefit, and permitting smoking in it. Surely a better approach would be through employment law: prohibit the benefits system from forcing a person to take a job in a smoking workplace, and so forth. Maybe there's some killer objection to this plan?)
Comments
Posted by Matthew, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 22:59 (link):
The objection is surely that the benefits system is not the only reason people take jobs. And also, "I can't see any problem with a group of smokers running a pub for their own benefit, and permitting smoking in it", you could surely replace 'pub' with 'factory' or any other business, which is not to say the argument is wrong, merely arguable.
Posted by Chris Lightfoot, Thursday, 16 February 2006 01:22 (link):
Benefits system -- yes, there'd have to be other changes to employment law, too, wouldn't there?
Arguable, I think. Let's say it's a cigarette factory all of whose staff smoke in their spare time. What'd be the problem with them smoking at work too? Of course, that's not appropriate for a petrol station or a firework factory, but those cases were already covered under existing law.
I don't really have a full idea of how this would work in practice, by the way, and I don't know whether there's a good organising principle by which the appropriate legislation could be written. And there are certainly lots of example cases where it'd be really messy. For instance, say a smoker working in a pub with several other smokers decides they want to quit. On the face of it they ought not to suffer for this decision, either by having to breathe their colleagues' smoke, or by losing their job. I don't know how you could sensibly handle that (akin to a case of constructive dismissal? by forcing the other smokers to quit too? by compensation? none of those sounds very realistic).
Posted by jamie, Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:13 (link):
I'm not sure that you give enough weight to the addictive nature of smoking. Groups of friends, say a group of five with two smokers, would tend to end up in a smoking pub because while the non-smokers would prefer to sit in a smoke free environment the smokers have to sit somewhere where they can smoke. I'm not sure exactly how many non-smokers it would take to exert pressure on the smokers to sit in a non-smoking environment in smaller groups but let's think of this as the majority of the country telling the smokers that we'd really rather sit in the non-smoking section tonight thanks.
Posted by Chris Lightfoot, Friday, 17 February 2006 01:18 (link):
OK, so that's another good example of an externality, but is it really an appropriate subject for legislation? If groups of friends can't choose by themselves between smoking and non-smoking environments, is the government really going to manage any better? This one seems to me quite different from the case where employment and so livelihoods are at stake, because there isn't the same disparity of bargaining power. Equally, most of my friends have given up smoking, so I'm less bother by this than are others not in the same happy position.
Posted by Sam Evans, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:54 (link):
Except, of course, that the smokers in your group of friends are free to decide that they'd rather not go to the non-smoking pub, and that they'd rather have a fag with their beer than spend time with their friends in a non-smoking pub. That may not make them very good friends, but we're not in the school playground here - you can't legislate to make people be your friend.
Posted by dsquared, Thursday, 16 February 2006 21:41 (link):
Chris, any chance of putting a link to the link log somewhere more accessible like at the top of the weblog? I only occasionally remember to check it. I suppose I could add it to "favourites" or something but hell, why should I do all the work around here.
Posted by Chris Lightfoot, Friday, 17 February 2006 01:13 (link):
It's linked to from the top of my main web log page (under ``Links and things''); I can probably add it to the page for each individual post, if you insist. Haven't you discovered The Wonder That Is RSS yet? (NB: RSS may not actually be wonderful; your mileage may vary.)
Posted by dsquared, Friday, 17 February 2006 14:16 (link):
oh bloody RSS. everyone keeps telling me "you should have RSS for this, RSS for that, have you seen the latest RSS thing". I don't understand it at all and vaguely fear it. it's like mobile phones all over again. well I have added it to my favourites now so as you were, I guess.
Posted by Chris Lightfoot, Saturday, 18 February 2006 11:31 (link):
I work in IT, so that's the sort of thing that brings music to my ears. Perhaps you would like to invest in a scalable enterprise-class RSS platform with an integrated web services delivery architecture, all at low total cost of ownership? Buy two and we'll throw in a free bridge.
(I have no idea how other people use RSS, by the way, but this is my RSS aggregator; it is actually a touch more convenient than the alternatives. Still completely useless if you want to follow a comments discussion on another site, but I think this sort of backward step is the price we have to pay for advances in technology like the switch of discussions from USENET to pissy little comments boxes on web logs, each in a different user interface.... </rant>)
Posted by Chris Williams, Sunday, 19 February 2006 22:52 (link):
Maybe we should close the blogs down and all move back to shwi?
Posted by Chris Lightfoot, Monday, 20 February 2006 00:02 (link):
It's not a bad suggestion, though to be fair I haven't looked at shwi in a while. (How, I wonder, did all those timelines I was following turn out? I can't face using Google Groups to check, sadly.) I think it's now true that a majority of the UK blogs I read aren't those of ex-shwi-ites, which is a change from when I started this one....
Posted by Anthony, Monday, 20 February 2006 10:05 (link):
But there's a wonderful new crackpot on SHWI, lots of Hindu nationalist revisionism. You'd like him ;)
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